Hall Rack

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Dec/08
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Jamie Moyer is a two-time 20 game winner, and has just passed HOFer Whitey Ford for career wins. He's in?

He's in the Hall for sure? Does he deserve it. Ford racked up all those wins with an amazing offense Yankees, while Moyer has been on some poor teams.

Jamie Moyer? Hall for sure? No. He is not in the Hall for sure. In fact, Moyer will NOT make the Hall of Fame, unless he pitches another three seasons approaching his 2003 line (probably his best season statistically: 21-7 record, 209 innings, 3.43 ERA).

Bad teams? Yikes. He was certainly not on as many great teams as Whitey Ford, but Moyer's been on some great teams himself. We have the 116-win 2001 Mariners, two other playoff trips with Seattle (1997 and 2000), not to mention the trip to the postseason last year with the Phillies. The two Rangers teams he was on won 83 games each year. These aren't World Series winning teams, granted, but they ain't the '62 Mets either.

Harping on which teams a pitcher pitched for is a lame argument regardless. You have to evaluate how the pitcher pitched, not how the teams played, and how the pitcher has fared compared to the average pitcher of his era.

Moyer's ERA+ (ERA compared to the league average) is 105. This means he was an average of 5% better than the league average. His career high for a season is 132. Whitey Ford's CAREER ERA+ is 133. So in essence, Whitey Ford's average season in his 16 year career was better than Moyer's BEST YEAR.

ERA+ isn't the best stat to evaluate a pitcher, but even if you use the general counting numbers for pitchers: 236-106 record for Ford is much better than Moyer's 237-184. Ford's K/9 is better, H/9 is better, HR/9 is lower, WHIP is better. Ford had many many more All Star appearances, 11 top 10 finishes in ERA, MVP votes in 9 seasons, and a Cy Young win under his belt. Moyer has... more wins than Ford.

Mike Mussina and Curt Schilling are close calls for HOF entry. Jamie Moyer is a nice guy who continues to have a long and successful career, but he's not a Hall of Famer.

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